Every degree is valuable, college has just lost it's value, amirite?

Yes those degrees have value, but it is very difficult to see an ROI for college if you major in them. Jobs in the STEM field generally pay well, so it's a better bang for your buck if you're dropping tens of thousands on a college education.

by NegotiationOk 1 week ago

It's not that hard, it's just supply and demand, and OP purposely misdefining the word "value." Value = dollar value for the services you provide. Knowing art history is valuable to society, sure. But knowing art history is not valuable if you want to exchange your knowledge for money. Are there art history jobs? Yes. But if there are 5 jobs that require a degree in art history and there are 20 art history majors, those jobs are going to be competitive and low paying, and the people who don't get them have to find a Starbucks to work at. You can't sell ice to a penguin.

by Anonymous 1 week ago

Also a lot of those degrees don't have value by themselves. but rather are used as a base for your masters degree. Like lawyers commonly major in philosophy for example. But a philosophy degree by itself doesn't have much value.

by Anonymous 1 week ago

This is the crux of the issue The worth of a degree has not lessened, but the cost has tripled. You'll make more money if you have a degree, but if it costs 80k, it's not as valuable.

by Anonymous 1 week ago

It is the same problem with having kids. The amount of money saved is so significant that it is reasonable to just opt out, even if it is something you would be interested in or do well with.

by Tricky-Figure-5485 1 week ago

TRUEEEE

by Anonymous 1 week ago

Sports tbh everyone needs these extravagant facilities for sports teams because that's where all the money is

by Anonymous 1 week ago

Yes, that is where the problem started.

by Visible-Indication 1 week ago

I think the issue is that back in the days people who went to college were "special", today way more people attend college so you're just one of many (unless you're really, really good at whatever you do).

by Anonymous 1 week ago

Yes. It used to be quite something to have gone to college. Now, it's just expected. Now, a masters is practically the equivalent of a bachelor's degree 20-30+ years ago.

by Anonymous 1 week ago

Don't forget the multi millions paid yearly to sports coaches

by Anonymous 1 week ago

To be fair most sports programs that offer salaries like that are self-funding and tend to be positive for fundraising efforts. Really this is mostly deanlets and dorms.

by Jacintobashiria 1 week ago

Lol you don't work in the university system, do you?

by jkerluke 1 week ago

Those are paid by self sufficient athletic departments that pay their own way and often kickback to the schools. The schools that have to have the university cover their athletic expenses are not paying multimillion dollar contracts to coaches. There are plenty of academic departments that are bloated or unnecessary that are draining schools, though. But it's okay because they can just jack up the price to give you a worse product.

by Equivalent_Clue_6282 1 week ago

I encourage you to watch "the ivory tower" it talks about a lot of these issues

by Anonymous 1 week ago

How can that be a free market if govt is at the crux of the issue, backing of student loans. It's a guaranteed debt by the fed.

by Anonymous 1 week ago

The loans are Government loans but nice try

by keon75 1 week ago

Does the government lose money on them?

by Anonymous 1 week ago

Government backed loans were explicitly sold as the "free market" approach to funding public education and it was argued that the market would be better able to decide how to deliver education than if we continued simply handing the cash to the adults who were running the schools. We've got this utter and complete disaster of a system whose sole existence is predicated entirely on the alleged strength of market efficiencies. Spoiler: turns out not so efficient. Turns out 17 year olds don't actually have a better idea about how to deliver quality education than professional educators.

by AlternativeCorner 1 week ago

Free Market literally means "free of Government intervention" so no, a Government loan cannot be the Free Market by definition 🙄

by keon75 1 week ago

I can't believe we are having to explain how free markets works….wild

by Anonymous 1 week ago

We're talking about public education. There is no public education in a free market. Did you not notice how "free market" was in quotations? Did you not understand that the original justification behind this program was being explained to you? The literacy skills on display here are astoundingly low, I must say.

by AlternativeCorner 1 week ago

Bingo. This is a result of the government slowly withdrawing funding from public institutions.

by Anonymous 1 week ago

And one of the things most prestigious to elite colleges, especially Ivy League schools, is the size of their endowment. The schools have multi billion dollar endowments, and are still raising tuition by double digits frequently. They should be using that money to offset the cost of tuition.

by Automatic_Umpire 1 week ago

Who is facing an insane labour shortage? Arts and humanities degrees have been looked down upon for decades.

by Upper-Leg-6515 1 week ago

Australia, Canada, the US, and parts of the EU are facing skilled labor shortages.

by Money_Jicama 1 week ago

College isn't the only contributing factor, but it does play a role. In the US it's a pretty major role, but it might be smaller in Canada.

by Money_Jicama 1 week ago

And what fields are the shortages in? Not enough art majors?

by Anonymous 1 week ago

Major =/= skills I'm a humanities major. My German literature degree isn't what makes me marketable.

by Anonymous 1 week ago

If you have marketable skills then you don't have a problem. The fact of the matter is that most art/humanities majors don't make a lot of money, and that's directly correlated with their lack of marketable skills.

by Anonymous 1 week ago

They're facing skilled labor (trade) shortages (ie plumbing, carpentry, electrical work.) You can click on the links for more details.

by Money_Jicama 1 week ago

It's not that the traditional college system isn't working, it's that we're pumping too many people into college. The fact of the matter is, some people are smarter than others. College isn't for everyone, but we're treating it like it is. There are plenty of critical roles to be played in society that don't require a college degree, but because of the overemphasis on college we're running out of people to fill those roles.

by Objective_Sort_4177 1 week ago

I don't think we are pumping out too many from college, continued education is good for everyone the problem is the cost and that not every job "requires" a degree and doesn't pay enough to pay off those high student loans. But then again many jobs technically could be done without a high school degree but we recognized awhile ago the positives of an educated population. If all things stay the same then yes many people shouldn't saddle themselves with insane debt. However, college prices should be reigned in or be free (for public universities) and we should continue to push people to go to because those experiences and education in college are good. Think of it as k through 16 instead of just k through 12.

by Stiedemannmoham 1 week ago

a lot of things require training but not an academical degree. like, come on, OP named _photography_ as example major.

by diamondkuhn 1 week ago

College is training and I think it's great to get the training while broadening your learning in other areas as well. Also photography is definitely something you can learn on your own but there is ALOT more to good photography than just pointing and clicking You can learn programming on your own but people still go to college for it.

by Stiedemannmoham 1 week ago

Nobody goes to college for programming, they go to college for computer science which is massively different and technically doesn't require programming at all This is exactly why people with degrees in computer science massively outperform those who learn to program at home, on average. Because most people self-learning don't even know what they need to learn.

by ThinBicycle327 1 week ago

Science and skill don't exclude each other, don't you mean it's an artform and not a science?

by Anonymous 1 week ago

many jobs technically could be done without a high school degree but we recognized a while ago the positives of an educated population. THAT PART!!!!

by Anonymous 1 week ago

It's not even just about being smart -- trades also require intelligence. But academic environments are certainly not for everyone.

by Money_Jicama 1 week ago

Exactly, well said. From the moment we hit grade school, college is shoved down our throats as the only path in life to follow. The hysterical irony is that most of the critical roles in society rely in entry level positions, most of which are being occupied by older individuals not teenagers. Not everyone can go to college, nor can everyone afford it. Yes there are jobs that definitely need and should require a higher education, but society is nowhere near close to full automation. We still need people to drive trucks, stock shelves, drill oil, deliver mail, work retail and restaurants etc. Not everyone can own their own multimillion dollar business and retire on a Yaht.

by Any_Shock 1 week ago

Whether or not college is for you has really nothing to do with how smart you are. Why should only smart people get an education? An education is valuable beyond any "role" one might play.

by Adept_Combination101 1 week ago

This: we dumbed down college so everyone could get in and get a degree. That's why there's no wage premium anymore.

by Fritschboris 1 week ago

If you're going to college to get a good job which is what 90% of people go to college for, then degrees absolutely have value. I have a computer science degree and I'm much more likely to get a job vs a philosophy major just based off of transferable skills

by marian08 1 week ago

But philosophy is interesting

by Parking-Bake 1 week ago

Which employers don't care about a college degree?!?!? Every job I have applied for requires a bachelor's degree minimum and I'm not even in STEM or law.

by Boring_Ad828 1 week ago

I think what OP meant is that they don't care about your degree because every single applicant has a degree so it becomes irrelevant and there's this dilemma where degree basically doesn't matter but rather the experience (which many students don't have) and other attributes the applicant has. The degree is the bare minimum to get a job but everything else is actually how you get a job. Oh and nepotism.

by jackydubuque 1 week ago

Exactly. People pursue STEM degrees because at the end of the day, it's a job. They still have artistic interests but a job isn't necessarily your hobby. Very few people have a STEM-related hobby. Those stories about people doing programming projects on the side for fun? That's an exception, not the rule.

by labadiematilde 1 week ago

Well, lots of people have STEM related hobbies who are also STEM people. Hehe.

by Anonymous 1 week ago

Unfortunately, I'm not one of them 😔 (Software engineer who likes writing fanfiction.)

by labadiematilde 1 week ago

Uh excuse me. I play the Clarinet and review lego imperial star destroyer blue print tyvm

by Anonymous 1 week ago

This. Probably the most valuable lesson I learned from college is how to find and interpret info, something the US populace thinks they know how to do but clearly do not.

by Live_Lecture 1 week ago

but you can pursue your hobby. it just means choosing some things over others, or, you know, letting a hobby just be a hobby. humans are supposed to be rounded, multi-interested beings. you can enjoy photography as hobby and do STEM work to make a living.

by diamondkuhn 1 week ago

You just spelled out your entire problem. You went into that psych degree expecting it to prepare you for a job that'll pay you well, when that's not what a psych degree was ever designed to do. University is not job training.

by Independent-Cow-305 1 week ago

University is not job training. Ding ding.

by diamondkuhn 1 week ago

critical thinking and understanding human nature is something stem won't teach you. lol _what_.

by diamondkuhn 1 week ago

Really, everytime these questions pop up I always muse that people focus too much on college being the be-all/end-all of mass education and "becoming a well rounded person", instead of making high-school more rigorous. As if for some reason "critical thinking" can only be taught to some university level students instead of at the high-school level.

by Strange-Point 1 week ago

Agreed entirely. In this age of global telecommunications, I can learn just as much about Hostory or Literature watching YouTube videos as I could taking college classes. But one of them is about $20k cheaper. "Well rounded educations" are fine and all, but when you're dropping 4 years and almost $100k, it's reasonable to ask for a concrete and objective return on your investment beyond knowing the difference between Monet and Manet.

by neomaglover 1 week ago

Yeah…I don't think this idiot realizes the first letter in the acronym is "science"

by Anonymous 1 week ago

I am a physicist. This person, by my observations, is not entirely incorrect. Technical thinking is not a 1:1 with critical thinking. The relationship between the two isn't fully orthogonal, of course. But there are some definite knowledge gaps compared to our peers in the humanities.

by AlternativeCorner 1 week ago

It's a supply and demand thing. Also high technical skills that people see as more valuable and crucial to business operations will be paid more valuably

by New-Ball 1 week ago

Americans in general don't appreciate or understand anything other than making money. That's why so many disparage education. Becoming wealthy is not the end goal of education, but people don't understand that, ironically. For people that only wish to progress in a trade or craft, and there is absolutely nothing wrong with that, follow that route. Vocational school, that's fine. But don't assume that an education is not worth having, because it is. For a lot of reasons.

by Corkerylempi 1 week ago

There's tons of useless degrees. Most of them are in liberal arts.

by paucekwalton 1 week ago

So much of this is just untrue. Where is this massive labor shortage? What do you mean that these degrees are increasingly looked down upon? They have been for generations

by PriorWeb8185 1 week ago

Have you been living under a rock?

by Qfeeney 1 week ago

The problem is over the past few decades, we've been starting to view university as something that should be equivalent to job training, when that's never what it was intended to be. University was never supposed to be something everyone goes to that prepares you for the workforce, it was supposed to be something for people with elite intellect to further humanity's understanding of the world. So of course trade school is a better bang for your buck in terms of preparing you for the workforce, that's literally what it's designed to do, unlike university. Right now we have way too many universities, way too many kids being pumped into and out of the system, and way too many kids going in expecting their degree to prepare them for some specific job when it's simply not gonna do that.

by Independent-Cow-305 1 week ago

90% of people tend to want an office job which usually requires a degree in someway shape or form. Trade school is that. For trades. A lot of people don't want to do that.

by Anonymous 1 week ago

100%

by Anonymous 1 week ago

I've said it before and I'll say it again - college is seen as a necessity and priced as a luxury.

by Anonymous 1 week ago

This is definitely an unpopular opinion. I'd argue the opposite. College is a valuable experience, but not every degree has value. Thinking that STEM isn't highly associated with critical thinking, and that you need 4 years of taking humanities courses to 'understand' human nature, is a bit odd. The way unemployment has been measured has changed slightly over the years; however, unemployment is the lowest it's been in a long time, with the exception of the 3 years before Covid. If you have a degree in a highly saturated field, it's going to be hard to get a job in that field no matter what. There are only so many jobs that require/suggest a philosophy/music/photography degree...

by ScratchFast9449 1 week ago

Honestly, I feel like a lot of people confuse their increase in "intelligence"/"well roundedness" to be from what they learned from degree and/or "college experience", instead of the fact that they went from being 17 to 23(wiggleroom for years) and living on their own for the first time.

by Strange-Point 1 week ago

I'd focus on college caliber over degree. A Yale Gender Studies major almost certainly had a perfect SAT math score, whereas the engineering major from a lesser school clearly struggled with that section.

by Anonymous 1 week ago

I agree, we need people in non-STEM fields.

by Actual-Cup 1 week ago

I know this would take an overhaul of our economy, so I'm not saying it's realistically going to happen soon, but I wish there was a place for learning just for the sake of learning. College is so career-focused now, which is great in some ways, but it leads to this culture of discounting any knowledge that isn't immediately profitable. And yes 100% support trades and trade schools.

by Money_Jicama 1 week ago

Unfortunately, education and learning are often seen as a means to an end and not as a path for personal growth. Of course, here in the US, unless one is independently wealthy, it comes at the risk of never-ending debt.

by ebertaracely 1 week ago

Colleges are now basically hedge funds with their endowments and they use the university status to evade taxes

by Anonymous 1 week ago

do whatever you want but don't expect many people paying you for your Phd on Mongolian vocal noises during kublai khan era.

by Evening_Will2487 1 week ago

I mean, the problem with the country (world?) right now is that people think that the only thing that matters is money. Strictly in a financial sense, most humanity degrees don't make sense. HOWEVER, an educated populace is perhaps the most important element of a successful democracy, so things start to fall apart as you look around and see nothing but STEM and finance people. We need to make professions like teacher, professor, museum curators, journalists, scholars, and even politicians pay enough that getting those degrees makes at least some financial sense.

by victorhartmann 1 week ago

Why do you think that people in STEM or finance are uneducated?

by Anonymous 1 week ago

It's not that they're uneducated, it's that their education is only really good for their specific fields. I don't want people with business degrees being the ones who make the important decisions about how to operate a society. That's no way to live. A slightly more facetious answer: some of the dumbest people I've ever met in my life have been engineers.

by victorhartmann 1 week ago

You don't need "art school" to create an amazing song or write a good book.

by ssporer 1 week ago

Expect the vast majority of people who are in the arts when to art school. Like how most famous actors actually went to school to at or some type of higher education.

by Candid-Craft8660 1 week ago

Sure, they have value. But that's leaving out a lot of analysis. Are they sufficiently valuable, to the student or society, to be worth several years and huge sums of money? That's a big opportunity cost to consider. Plus we need Animators, para-legals, historians, social workers, teachers, interior designers, journalist, musicians and photographers. We need these people but the job market is becoming to hostile for them. We do need those things, just not that many. Insofar as we could use more social workers, that's a function of government policy almost entirely. I don't know that it's very efficient to have a whole bunch of people training to be social workers competing for the few jobs available.

by Relevant-Tip4097 1 week ago

At this point in time, life/hands on experience should matter more.

by Olgarath 1 week ago

People expect to start in the workforce a big ass salary right out of the gate with no or little experience. These are also the types to say the middle class is over because they cant take an international vacation every year

by Anonymous 1 week ago

I don't care what people major in. I'm a CS major. I find it laughable that major in CJ, PY, or Painting complain how hard their degrees are. It's not. I just don't want to pay for the degrees that get to sit there and color and paint while I'm doing discrete math and linear algebra.

by Anonymous 1 week ago

Yeah… I guess that's the kind of stupidity I should have expected. Real life personification of why a bachelors degree has become worthless

by Excellent_Concert582 1 week ago

The "job-buying" value of a degree has drastically diminished the past couple decades. Partly it's over-saturation, so businesses are turning to experience over education. The "labor shortage" is still an aftershock of COVID. (At least in the U.S., not sure about other countries,) large businesses get tax breaks because they employ X thousands of employees. COVID forced many businesses to scale down; to avoid losing their benefits based on total job volume (not actual employment numbers,) they are essentially working the sympathy card. We'll see a short recession if/when they can no longer claim pre-COVID-volume employer benefits.

by Far_Philosopher842 1 week ago

At this point only the TE part of Stem make money nowadays.....Kinda depressing.

by Inner-Supermarket217 1 week ago

Knowledge is powerful. When you work at anything you grow. Nobody should be ashamed of educating themselves. Not all degrees are a good financial investment though.

by Anonymous 1 week ago

If the college sysyem has lost value then quite literally their degrees have lost value as well.

by Anonymous 1 week ago

This reminds me of "Restaurant at the End of the Universe" and the 1/3 of the Golgafrincham population aboard Ark Fleet Ship B.

by Material-Virus-5079 1 week ago

The problem is that colleges turned into business where students aren't allowed to fail. It's all about money in, not education out.

by Ggreenholt 1 week ago

Pretty much all degrees will earn you more money than someone without a degree will earn. All that really matters is not going to the most expensive schools unless you know what you're getting into.

by Anonymous 1 week ago

Trades and technical skills are required. So many talented people online that can create art and didn't go to school. Humanities, social studies? All experiments.

by Dear_Dig_5012 1 week ago

I completely agree. I was too broke after HS to even think about college, as much as I wanted to go. So I settled for apprenticeship/programs and actually really enjoy my job now. Making 40/hr with full benefits.

by Anonymous 1 week ago

PhDs struggle because its a research degree. There are a great many more avenues for someone with a BS to make a lot more money than what is available for a PhD

by Anonymous 1 week ago

My husband has a master's in esoterics and an associate's in software design. He doesn't even acknowledge the MS on his resume.

by Optimal_Sherbet6476 1 week ago

Yes, people are terribly misinformed about the intent of a 4 year degree.

by Anonymous 1 week ago

My fine art degree is useless. I wish I went to trade school or became an apprentice

by hank64 1 week ago

I would have liked to study something that actually contributes and helps like conservation or something but nah go get a communications degree and sit in front of a screen doing whatever for a paycheck. like I get it we all gotta get by somehow but it's hollow and it's empty and at the end of the day I am too.

by Anonymous 1 week ago

Critical thinking is a fundamental cornerstone of the scientific method. It's laughable that you think you'd only get that from an art of humanities degree.

by Anonymous 1 week ago

All the tech people seem to think liberal arts are necessary to adequately deal with AI. 🤷🏻‍♂️

by margedeckow 1 week ago

If everyone reaches for the stars there will be no one left on earth

by Anonymous 1 week ago

Tertiary level education has lost its value BECAUSE degrees have lost their value. University became a business which led to passing students who should be failed out which meant lowering the floor and a glut of low-quality millennial degrees.

by Anonymous 1 week ago

I think those degrees were originally completed by affluent people who didn't necessarily need the degree to form a career, but had the leisure to study what they wanted on their parents dime. The outstanding ones would be outstanding of course and do their thing. But I don't think back the day an average talent would have the means to go to college for art or humanities.

by areinger 1 week ago

Social sciences / humanities degrees based on identity characteristics have proven pretty worthless. When I say "pretty worthless", I mean comparing a measurement of contribution to a functional community, not a theoretical one.

by Extra_Simple9025 1 week ago

20 years later everyone have a masters degree

by Parkeramelie 1 week ago

I agree completely. The obsession with stem is annoying, not everyone is good enough at math to major in something stem related.

by Anonymous 1 week ago

The issue is that it is the job market that gets to decide how valuable a degree is. Let's say that Faber University produces 15 graduates. 5 are in accounting, 5 in electrical engineering, and 5 in Latvian poetry. Let's stipulate that none of those degrees is inherently superior to the other. All 15 students paid $300,000 for their education. Five accounting companies come recruiting to Faber. All 5 accounting grades get jopbs offering $75,000 per year. Their educational investment will pay off in 4 years. All good. Eight engineering companies come recruiting to Faber. Since there are more jobs than grads, not only to all 5 get jobs, but they are able to demand a higher salary and sign for $100,000 each. Their educational investment will pay off in 3 years. Even better. There is only a single job requiring a Latvian poetry degree. As this employer has 5 applicants to choose from, they offer the job for $50,000. One of the grads will take it, because the alternative is working at a coffee shop. For that stduent, their educational investment will pay off in 6 years. Less good. For the other 4, the investment never pays off, because they are working jobs that do not require a Latvian poetry degree. And that's the problem with higher education. Too many students are paying too much money for a degree that will never lead to a career that requires it. They are being told to "follow their bliss" without considering if any one else finds their bliss useful to the point of paying actual money for it. You can argue the inherent value of a poetry degree to society as a whole, but there is no argument that there simply aren't many companies hiring poets these days. And yet the school will happily take their money and let them study poetry if they want to.

by Anonymous 1 week ago

In general, the arts and humanities haven't been about critical thinking or creativity for a couple of decades now. They're an income stream for universities, enabling mediocre minds from middle and upper class families to purchase a credential that used to be reserved for intellectuals.

by Anonymous 1 week ago

You don't really need a degree in art to be most kind of conventional artist, though. You generally do need a STEM degree for STEM fields. I think it's less about art degrees being actively bad, and more about them being extraneous.

by Anonymous 1 week ago

About 20 years ago my dad noticed all of the junior staff shuffling papers in his workers insurance joint had MBAs. Every resume coming in was an arts/MBA and here they are looking at dealing with paperwork and dealing with phonecalls about work injury. The world changed long ago. When everyone has the same degree and quals it loses its worth.

by Lucie19 1 week ago

Nobody learns critical thinking in college. It's exactly the opposite

by Anonymous 1 week ago

Strong disagree. Most people I know who got arts or humanity degrees never worked in those fields- and if you do not use the knowledge you forget it. That's a lot of time and money that someone paid just for someone to forget their anthropology or psychology classes after they did not land a job.

by Anonymous 1 week ago

Unpopular opinion: you can technically do most careers without a degree. Obviously, excluding science and medical type fields that require a lot of knowledge. It's just dumb most places require a degree for something you can learn OJT

by Anonymous 1 week ago

I agree with everything except about getting your foot in the door part. I do think college is a way to get your foot in the door. Part of the college experience and life in general is your ability to talk and connect to people. Not just being able to do that but doing it in a way that is meaningful. Many of these people will have opportunities that not everyone is afforded, and sometimes they are in a position to provide that opportunity to you that you otherwise wouldn't even be considered.

by Anonymous 1 week ago

I guess it depends on how you define value but in terms of economics, your example degrees hold very little to no value.

by Anonymous 1 week ago

People really need to learn the meaning of value If you have 100 people competing for 200 jobs… those 100 people are valuable If you have 100 people competing for 50 jobs… those 100 people are no longer that valuable Value is also dependent on the majority…. It's why athletes and entertainers make more then museum curators or artist or most photographers etc… it's what the majority values more If nobody values what you do, and is not willing to spend money on it, you're not valuable Just because you think it's important, doesn't mean others do And college degrees today are what high school diplomas were 20-30 years ago… too many people have them, therefore they're not valuable

by ProfessionalPea 1 week ago

The real reason most degrees are a waste of time is because there are so many more ways to learn now.

by macejkovicmyrna 1 week ago

We need more philosophers. Nothing more useful to society than people who study some dudes' opinions and treat it as fact.

by Anonymous 1 week ago

Most university graduates are not smart enough to really benefit from a good university education, if such a thing still exists. Universities should focus on burnishing the minds of the most capable 10%

by Anonymous 1 week ago

Do you realize that the reason why historically a large number of people have been able to achieve a certain level of prosperity is because at a certain point education was no longer exclusive and limited? Doesn't work like that.

by Anonymous 1 week ago

Thank you! There are way too many people calling a degree a "little piece of paper". Education is for education, not a job training exercise. Please, do not devalue the importance of learning for the sake of learning.

by Pure_Teaching 1 week ago

Nobody is devaluing it. But then don't complain that your degree isn't getting you a job. If your goal for learning wad learning, good for you. But then don't expect a job out of it.

by Acceptable_Hotel 1 week ago

I really just can't see the value of a religious studies degree.

by Anonymous 1 week ago

More like white collar jobs have lost their value. This is only applicable to America. 2024 is the year of blue collar

by Anonymous 1 week ago

I wish

by Edward04 1 week ago

Totally untrue

by Independent-Cow-305 1 week ago

Yea, that "communications degree" is super relevant, when you have to compete with the kid who barely graduated highschool to work the hotel front desk

by Anonymous 1 week ago

I think UBI (Universal Basic Income) would really alleviate this and a lot of other societal issues. Once survival is no longer tied to employment, people will be free to pursue endeavors they find meaningful without the profit/survival motive.

by Zwilkinson 1 week ago